If you could pick your ideal England team. Coaches and then a 24 man squad. Apologise if there is already another thread.

Head coach: Shaun Wane
Assistant coach: James Lowes
Backs Coach: Daryl Powell
Forwards Coach: Paul Anderson
Kicking Coach: Paul Deacon

1 Sam Tomkins
2 Charnley
3 Watkins
4 Reed
5 Hall
6 Widdop
7 M.Smith
8 Graham
9 Mcclorum
10 G.Burgess
11 Westwood
12 Ferres
13 O Loughlin
14 Clark
15 Hill
16 Whitehead
17 Taylor
18 Walmsley
19 T.Briscoe
20 Ratchford
21 Hardaker
22 Farrell
23 Shenton
24 Bateman

Makinson - stand by
sarginson - stand by
roby - stand by

McIllorum over Clark & Roby? That Neanderthal Wane as coach? James Lowes as assistant?

I'll have 2 of what you're drinking!

Will give this a go later when I've got a bit more time to think it through.

And no Sam Burgess either? What have you been smoking at lunchtime??

Head Coach- Shaun Wane/Brian McDermott/Daryl Powell (any if them)

1. Zak Hardaker
2. josh Charnley
3. Kallum Watkins
4. Jack Reed
5. Ryan Hall
6. Sam Tomkins
7. Gareth Widdop
8. James Graham
9. Daryl Clark
10. Chris Hill
11. Liam Farrell
12. Ben Westwood
13. Sean O'Loughlin

14. George Burgess
15. Craig Huby
16. Brett Ferres
17. James Roby

18. Steffan Ratchford
19. Tom Briscoe
20. Matty Smith
21. Scott Taylor
22. Alex Walmsley
23. Elliot Whitehead
24. Mike McIlorum

I don't think O'Loughlin will put himself through international duty at the end of the year though (he may even retire) so the likes of Ablett, Bateman, Westerman or even Joel Tomkins may come in to the reckoning.

A mystical cigar that spoke to him and told him Burgess is going to Bath RU?

1 player in the 24 man squad from the team top of the league? Really?

Hardaker
Hall Watkins Shenton Makinson
Tomkins Widdop
Graham Roby G Burgess
Whitehead Ablett
O'loughlin

Hill Amor Ferres Clark

Taylor Huby Farrell Westerman
Cudjoe Sneyd Charnley Ratchford

Is that before the 4 Nations then, as soon as his season with South Sydney is over? Apologies if it is, thought he may still be around to play for England before moving codes.

Yes, he goes straight to Bath and won't play in the four nations which is a shame.

I'd be really confident about us progressing again in this four nations if we had two things-

1- Sam Burgess
2- A different coach

How anyone can pick Mcillorum is beyond me. On form he isn't in the top 3 hookers in the league.

Nor on ability.

weren't there something a few weeks back about Trent hodkinson wanting to play for England because his dads English?

Yeah but he hadn't turned out for NSW then. Now that he has that ship has sailed.