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| Some fans have rightly criticised the half backs, but others then amazingly say this is a knee-jerk reaction.
We have been clueless in attack THROUGHOUT the year. We have had one of the worst try scoring records
THROUGHOUT the year. Whose responsibility is it to create tries if not the half-backs?
Holdsworth is a good defender and kicker of the ball, he takes us around the park, but it is when we are
in a position to attack that he is lost [ unless he kicks!!. He is not a natural runner and instinctive passer
of the ball with flair. He never attacks the line, dummies, side-steps, holds the ball putting players through
the gap. He does not make breaks or support breaks. At Salford he kicked them into position but then Smith
and Patton dictated the play! At the play the ball he often stands so far back it is easy for the defence to see
what we are doing, presumably this is why we are the only team in the league not to bother with dummy
runners- there is no point!!
Miller has pace and at times attacks the line, but he lacks skill and vision, and often runs around like a headless chicken. Horne has always been class, AND MUST COME IN.
Finally, will people stop regarding Whiting as a super-sub, who appears when someone is tired or injured. He
has the strength of a forward, the skill of a half-back, and has better awareness than anyone else in the side.
He must start at LOOSE FORWARD, WHERE HE SHOULD HAVE PLAYING FOR YEARS!
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| Quote tonyanl="tonyanl"Some fans have rightly criticised the half backs, but others then amazingly say this is a knee-jerk reaction.
We have been clueless in attack THROUGHOUT the year. We have had one of the worst try scoring records
THROUGHOUT the year. Whose responsibility is it to create tries if not the half-backs?
Holdsworth is a good defender and kicker of the ball, he takes us around the park, but it is when we are
in a position to attack that he is lost [ unless he kicks!!. He is not a natural runner and instinctive passer
of the ball with flair. He never attacks the line, dummies, side-steps, holds the ball putting players through
the gap. He does not make breaks or support breaks. At Salford he kicked them into position but then Smith
and Patton dictated the play! At the play the ball he often stands so far back it is easy for the defence to see
what we are doing, presumably this is why we are the only team in the league not to bother with dummy
runners- there is no point!!
Miller has pace and at times attacks the line, but he lacks skill and vision, and often runs around like a headless chicken. Horne has always been class, AND MUST COME IN.
Finally, will people stop regarding Whiting as a super-sub, who appears when someone is tired or injured. He
has the strength of a forward, the skill of a half-back, and has better awareness than anyone else in the side.
He must start at LOOSE FORWARD, WHERE HE SHOULD HAVE PLAYING FOR YEARS!'"
Good assessment.
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| FFS another knee jerker
Horne has not always been class, hence our lack of creativity for years since Cooke left.
There didn't appear appear to be much f a problem when we won 9 from 10 in April and may. Or at the times we put 52 and 72 on teams this season. So there hasn't been a problem thought the season. It's your knee jerking which is the problem
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| Quote Mild mannered Janitor="Mild mannered Janitor"FFS another knee jerker
Horne has not always been class, hence our lack of creativity for years since Cooke left.
There didn't appear appear to be much f a problem when we won 9 from 10 in April and may. Or at the times we put 52 and 72 on teams this season. So there hasn't been a problem thought the season. It's your knee jerking which is the problem'"
The 52 and 72 were an exception to the rule in fairness. It's not knee jerk to suggest that we've defended well and stuttered in attack overall. We'll improve for sure. In relation to Horne I wouldn't be surprised if he still wins POTY even being out so long. That's a measure of how well he was playing before injury. The comments re Holdsworth have some merit particularly his lack of invention with ball in hand.
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| a drop off ball inside and a kick to the fullback on a platter?
yup, Horne would have won us the game yesterday
we lost because we didn't have a clue, wasn't any single players fault.
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| Quote Standee="Standee"a drop off ball inside and a kick to the fullback on a platter?
yup, Horne would have won us the game yesterday'"

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| Quote tonyanl="tonyanl"Some fans have rightly criticised the half backs, but others then amazingly say this is a knee-jerk reaction.
We have been clueless in attack THROUGHOUT the year. We have had one of the worst try scoring records
THROUGHOUT the year. Whose responsibility is it to create tries if not the half-backs?
Holdsworth is a good defender and kicker of the ball, he takes us around the park, but it is when we are
in a position to attack that he is lost [ unless he kicks!!. He is not a natural runner and instinctive passer
of the ball with flair. He never attacks the line, dummies, side-steps, holds the ball putting players through
the gap. He does not make breaks or support breaks. At Salford he kicked them into position but then Smith
and Patton dictated the play! At the play the ball he often stands so far back it is easy for the defence to see
what we are doing, presumably this is why we are the only team in the league not to bother with dummy
runners- there is no point!!
Miller has pace and at times attacks the line, but he lacks skill and vision, and often runs around like a headless chicken. Horne has always been class, AND MUST COME IN.
Finally, will people stop regarding Whiting as a super-sub, who appears when someone is tired or injured. He
has the strength of a forward, the skill of a half-back, and has better awareness than anyone else in the side.
He must start at LOOSE FORWARD, WHERE HE SHOULD HAVE PLAYING FOR YEARS!'"
One question: where did you cut and paste that from? I don't know of any system that would format text in the above manner.
Only other thing I have to say is you are wrong on so many levels
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| Quote cod'ead="cod'ead"One question: where did you cut and paste that from? I don't know of any system that would format text in the above manner.
Only other thing I have to say is you are wrong on so many levels'"
Which ones would you say ?
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| The glaringly obvious fact that you DO miss out is that our forwards were second best to Wigan in every way. No halfbacks can play behind such a beaten pack.
That is the more serious worry for me, and has been a feature of every embarrassing defeat this year.
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| Holdsworth is predictable because he never runs the ball! At least Miller takes the line on with pace and a good step
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| Be precise. Where exactly am I wrong? About Whiting,
Horne is not better than Miller, Holdsworth is not an
instinctive runner and passer of the ball, or that we have
lacked creativity and been amongst the lowest try
scorers throughout the year?
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| Quote Staffs FC="Staffs FC"Which ones would you say ?'"
Well where do we start?
As TrevLovesJanice has said, no halfbacks can perform well behind a pack that allows itself to be dominated in the ruck.
Miller running around like a headless chicken? Really?
Horne may have been good for us in some matches this year until his injury. Thankfully he wasn't selected yesterday becvause he wouldn't have changed much if anything about how we played.
Whiting should not be our loose man, he is far more effective as a sub. It's a 17 man game and should be seen as such.
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