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 The higher you build your barriers
 The taller I become
 The farther you take my rights away
 The faster I will run
 You can deny me
 You can decide to turn your face away
 No matter, cos there’s
 
 Something inside so strong
 I know that I can make it
 Though you’re doing me wrong, so wrong
 You thought that my pride was gone
 Oh no, there's something inside so strong
 Oh oh oh oh oh oh
 Something inside so strong
 
 The more you refuse to hear my voice
 The louder I will sing
 You hide behind walls of Jericho
 Your lies will come tumbling
 Deny my place in time
 You squander wealth that’s mine
 My light will shine so brightly
 It will blind you
 because there’s
 
 Something inside so strong
 I know that I can make it
 Though you’re doing me wrong, so wrong
 You thought that my pride was gone
 Oh no, there's something inside so strong
 Oh oh oh oh oh oh
 Something inside so strong
 
 Brothers and sisters
 When they insist we’re just not good enough
 Well we know better
 Just look ‘em in the eyes and say
 We're gonna do it anyway
 We're gonna do it anyway
 There's
 
 Something inside so strong
 And I know that I can make it
 Though you’re doing me wrong, so wrong
 You thought that my pride was gone
 Oh no, there's something inside so strong
 Oh oh oh oh oh oh
 Something inside so strong
 
 Brothers and sisters
 When they insist we’re just not good enough
 Well we know better
 Just look ‘em in the eyes and say
 We're gonna do it anyway
 We're gonna do it anyway
 We're gonna do it anyway
 We're gonna do it anyway
 Because there’s
 
 Something inside so strong
 I know that I can make it
 Though you’re doing me wrong, so wrong
 You thought that my pride was gone
 Oh no, there's something inside so strong
 
 There's something inside so strong
 I know that I can make it
 Though you’re doing me wrong, so wrong
 You thought that my pride was gone
 Oh no, there's something inside so strong
 Oh oh oh oh oh oh
 Something inside so strong
 Oh oh oh oh oh oh
 Something inside so strong
 Oh oh oh oh
 Something inside so strong
 
 
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 You could still get in for next season if you are seen as better than the rest of the clubs in super league.
 
 If not you will rightly take a place in 2015. I know it seems a long way away but it will fly by and the club will grow stronger.
 
 
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 Also, one of Widnes's poistives was their youth system. We weren't allowed to have scholorships or and U-18's for the past two years, how is that nothing wrong!
 
 
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| Online | Last Post | Last Page |  | Jan 2018 | Jan 2018 | LINK |  | Milestone Posts |  |  |  | Milestone Years |  |  |  | Location |  |  |  | Signature |  | TO BE FIXED |  |  | First of all this is nothing against Widnes or the fans and wish them well. But seriously there seems to be more talk about what happens off the field than on it. It seems the RFL do not care what happens on the field they are more interested in who has a shiny stadium or who can claim to have this done or have that done. Rugby League is not a sport any more. Sport should be mainly about what happens on the field. Nigel Wood amongst others made a mess of Fax a few years ago and left before the crap hit the fan. Fax were lucky to survive and were forced into selling everything. Now this same clown is ruining our game with his poor mismanagement. Fans are fed up below SL-not that the RFL seriously care. Why pay 15 Quid or so to watch a game where it does not matter whether you win the League or Grand Final. Seriously Rugby League is a joke. So Leigh, Fax, Fev, Barrow etc dont bother trying to win on the field, just spend all your money getting/having nice stadia, a team that is allegedly full of youth and a sugar daddy.
 
 
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 or, as the Leigh fans were forced to admit when they made similar complaints, were allowed to run an under 18s - provided you abided by the law of the land on the minimum wage - and could run a scholarship on condition that you privided  a clar pathway for development at the end of that (ie an under 18s, which takes us back to the first point)
 
 
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 or, as the Leigh fans were forced to admit when they made similar complaints, were allowed to run an under 18s - provided you abided by the law of the land on the minimum wage - and could run a scholarship on condition that you privided  a clar pathway for development at the end of that (ie an under 18s, which takes us back to the first point)'"
 
No, they were willing to pay for it, but they wouldnt let us run an U-18s and Scholarship without an U-23s. We wanted to do U-18s and Scholarship two years ago then all three this year. 
 
Regarding the minimum wage. You are deluded if you think all of the Championship teams are paying minimum wage to their U-18s and U-23s. Whitehaven almost went bust last year but still run an U-23s. | 
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Docked 9 points and it put a fatal hole in their licence bid. This, to you, iw "without penalty"? | 
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