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| Quote Shabino="Shabino"Hi all, I’ve been following this site for few years but not commented. I’m pretty shocked at how bitter some people can get on here. Tui was the best half on show by a mile. Played Hastings off the park. Give him some credit! Have people ever considered that you don’t need to look like Anthony Joshua to play half back?
It didn’t work out at Leeds and we have moved on, but no need to slate him now.'"
I agree we shouldn't slate people unduly, but Tui was a shower with us and that shouldn't be forgotten. I agree he looked decent at the weekend but as others have said with a pack with that much grunt ahead of you it gives you time and space - we needed (and still need) a half who can make plays even when under pressure, and that's not Tui. |
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| Quote KaeruJim="KaeruJim"You have to be careful taking the moral high ground when you weren’t present to witness events first hand.
The truth is that some players are idiots and get away with it, others maybe get put it very difficult positions and pay a price, amongst the ones who commit acts they’re rightfully punished for.
RL is played mostly by big, angry, aggressive men who enjoy physical contest. Some can leave that on the field, but most will bubble up especially under the influence of drugs/alcohol.
They are trained never to take a backward step from being young teenagers, and equipped to handle themselves.
You won’t know what level of provocation the player has been exposed to or the context around events. Let the courts do their job where necessary but you don’t need to hang draw and quarter everyone who has bad press. Chances are there are plenty of players you’re willing to champion who are actually guilty of worse - you just don’t know about it.'"
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| Quote KaeruJim="KaeruJim"You have to be careful taking the moral high ground when you weren’t present to witness events first hand.
The truth is that some players are idiots and get away with it, others maybe get put it very difficult positions and pay a price, amongst the ones who commit acts they’re rightfully punished for.
RL is played mostly by big, angry, aggressive men who enjoy physical contest. Some can leave that on the field, but most will bubble up especially under the influence of drugs/alcohol.
They are trained never to take a backward step from being young teenagers, and equipped to handle themselves.
You won’t know what level of provocation the player has been exposed to or the context around events. Let the courts do their job where necessary but you don’t need to hang draw and quarter everyone who has bad press. Chances are there are plenty of players you’re willing to champion who are actually guilty of worse - you just don’t know about it.'"
Mostly agree, but not that domestic violence is somehow acceptable if there was provocation. I accept these guys are conditioned to be aggressive on the pitch, but they still need to be able to exercise a level of control in the real world. |
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| Quote Ferdy="Ferdy"Quote Ferdy="Superted"I'm by far a Saint, but I have to say, our slip in acceptable standards for recruits on both the playing, attitude and moral integrity stance has disappointed me, and I think it's no surprise that our performances and team spirit have waned since.
Once upon a time GH played the moral high ground on the Bulls attempting to sign Greg Bird, who had allegedly glassed his Mrs (was never proven in a Court of law). Then over recent years we've signed Ferres and Lui, covered up multiple sins of existing players, and signed a whole host of players without a rap sheet, but with poor skill and/or attitude.
I get the whole 'give them a second chance' stance from the sport, but I'd rather my club not sign those sort of players - I find it very difficult to cheer for Ferres or Lui, and would much prefer to have neither in the team, regardless of ability.'"
Yes it’s just a recent thing it’s not like 2 of the golden generation did bird. The club would have never stood by them would they'"
Young lads getting into a scrap with other young lads whilst out on the beer is slightly different to romping a team mates Mrs or belting your Mrs. |
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| Quote Superted="Superted"Young lads getting into a scrap with other young lads whilst out on the beer is slightly different to romping a team mates Mrs or belting your Mrs.'"
Yes it is romping with someone else’s wife isn’t a criminal offence and doesn’t give you jail time.
(While I agree about the other)
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| Quote Ferdy="Ferdy"Yes it is romping with someone else’s wife isn’t a criminal offence and doesn’t give you jail time.
(While I agree about the other)
My point is we have never been holier than vow,'"
I dont think any club can be, but there are some lows we shouldn't stoop to.
In my opinion, what Ferres did is far worse on the moral spectrum than what Bailey, Chev and co did. |
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